Thursday , October 6 2022

Proposals to stop public money to pay for abortion services was shot by the Health Committee


By Elaine Luplin, political reporter

Update 5.10: Proposals to stop the state's payment of abortions, unless the woman's life is at risk, were dropped by the Health Committee.

Former Shin Fine TD Carol Nolan presented an amendment to the Health (End of Pregnancy Act) Bill 2018, which stated that no public money would be granted for termination except in cases where there is a risk to the life of a pregnant woman.

Carol Nolan TD

In response to the amendment Simon Harris asks if it is correct to send women who have been raped or suffered a fatal fact in embryonic medical bill.

"Here are some breaking news: women are taxpayers," he told the health committee.

[quote]It's about free, safe and legal, if it's not free it will still be legal but it will not be safe.[/quote]

"I'm not going to discriminate against two women, the only difference between them is the choice of one woman," he said of the amendment.

Mr. Harris added: "I thought Ireland moved to a better place in this respect."

A number of TDs including Mr. Nolan, Peter Fitzpatrick and Margaret Murphy O Mahony citing the health care system has been strained funding crisis in our hospitals.

But Mr. Harris said that the funding for abortion services would be far from "generous flaitulach" as the amount allocated is only 0.0007% of the total health budget.

To beat Mr. Harris, Ms. Nolan said the minister bowed. "You do not have to act like a frightened schoolboy," she said.

Louis O'Reilly, Sean Payne, asked Segev Nolan, a former colleague, "to consider the rape victim of pregnant direct teaching."

"I think this amendment is very unfortunate," she said, and asked that they be removed.


While Bernard Durkin said it would be "travesty" if the service is not funded by the taxpayer.

Breed Smith asked why the amendment was not revoked when two separate amendments that allow women living in Northern Ireland to access the services here have been discontinued.

The committee also passed a proposal that would allow for review of legislation no later than five years after it began.

Ted's number, including Kate O'Connell of Payne Gaul, said five years were too long to wait for criticism, and it was presented that it would be reduced to three years by the minister at the reporting stage.

The discussion of the 181 amendments continued.

[h2]"Women are taxpayers": Health Minister rejects the proposal not to use public funds for abortion services[/h2]

The Health Minister vehemently rejected suggestions that there is no public money to be used to pay for abortion services.

A proposed new legislation to regulate breaks was discussed within the next three days at the Oireachtas Health Committee.

My friends pass the line of wording by line and consider 180 corrections.

Former Shin Fine TD Carol Nolan, now self-employed, does not want public money to be performed providing abortion.

Minister Simon Harris says women also pay taxes.

"Here are some breaking news, women are taxpayers, it's about providing services for women so when we talk about taxpayers it's not a clear and clear group of people that's different from the group of people who will benefit from it.

"I thought that the policy of the party you are in, I think that is the policy of most people in this Eraktas, is certainly the policy of Slientkar … that we are going towards universalism."

[h2]"You do not need a doctor to perform an abortion," Coppinger claims in the Health Committee[/h2]

Update 1.30pm: It is alleged that doctors are not required to perform abortions in Ireland.

There are calls for nurses and midwives to be included in new laws to regulate breaks following a referendum last May.

Nearly 200 amendments were raised by TDS on the proposal of the Minister of Health Regulation of the termination of pregnancy Bill.

Oireachtas The members of the Health Committee go through the proposed wording line by line.

Solidarity TD Ruth Kaufinger says that other medical professionals can provide the service.


"In France, for example, midwives participate in abortions," said Ms. Kopinger.

"You do not need a doctor to do an abortion.

"There are 10 people a day who leave the country of course, but there are also up to five others who use abortion pills through medical sites, we have already proven.

"The reason I think this is important is, we need to stress abortion is a very simple procedure, very simple."

– Desk

Earlier: Discussions on abortion legislation begin at Oireachtas Health Commission

Marathon debate on new abortion legislation to start today Oireachtas Health Committee.

This is a chance for TDs to bring amendments to the proposed new laws.

Nearly 200 amendments were raised by legislators bill of the Minister of Health.

The proposed changes will be discussed at three marathon sessions of the Oireachtas Health Committee in the coming days.

They include a number of lobby TD Pro for life.

A group of eight predators called for her to enact that a woman requesting an abortion should be shown an ultrasound image of the fetus or listen to her pulse.

They also say that the remains of each passing embryo will be buried or burned after surgery.

The group also has requested abortions to be prohibited if they are asked because of the sex or race of the baby, or if there is a disability involved.

Independent TD Carol Nolan has corrected calling for no public money to be used to roll out abortion services.


Simon Harris brings change itself to allow an overview of the legislation within 5 years to see how it worked and if there were any problems.

Very few of the other proposed amendments may be accepted by the Minister.

Discussions will begin this morning and will take place during the week.

– Desk

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